ICT for Visualising Thinking Year 11 Physics –…
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Here are some suggestionsfor what to feedback on for question two in peer review – these are suggestions only:
If there was an environment for you to view answer these questions
1. Was it clear what was to be done at the environment? Why was it clear? Why wasn’t it clear?
2. Do you think the target audience would be able to do the task?
3. Do you think the environment chosen was appropriate?Why Why not?
4. Make any suggestions for alternatives, additions or clarifications or simplifications that you believe would improve the learning?
Just got myself into a jam by not knowing the capabilities of the software I was getting students to access. The jam occurred with the software built into the Blackboard learning management system that enable a blind peer review process.
Peer review is a nice idea but it seems everyone or every system has different ways of administering it or different expectations of what it might involve.
So the jam was I set a deadline for the submission of work in the software – so that at that date the reviewers of the submissions could start to do do their reviews because they could start to see the submissions that they were to feedback their ideas on.
This is logical – but my expectation was that there would always be late submissions – it is a fact of life at university level – and usually we make minor allowances for late submission. In another peer review environment I have used you can reopen the submission process to allow for these late comers – and then you manually allocate the latecomers some reviews to do and so reviewers to review their late work- you may even allocate the latecomers to a tutor or the lecturer to review.
But the blackboard environment perhaps logically is not so forgiving. A deadline set is a deadline set and no change can be made.
So a manual work around is necessary that does not involve the software for peer review having to accept any new submissions or edits to submissions. This work around is only possible because outside the peer review area the students were using their blogs and PLEs as unofficial peer review sites before we even started the official software delineated process.
The group really does not need a blind peer review process like the one in the LMS because they pretty much know what each other is doing and probably may even reveal their own identity to whoever they review in the LMS process just by the turn of phase or writing style they use.
The reality is that they were peer reviewing each other even before we stated the software peer review area – and this brings up the question – is a blind peer review process better than one where the submitter and reviewer know each other?
The question over what can be virtual is similar to the question what is the object. Seems to me they are basic questions – but perhaps a little too philosophical or even childish in nature.
I ask the question is it the learning or the environment that is virtual in a VLE? But maybe the answer is not of consequence Tim found this quote in Wikipedia…” A more correct term may be a virtual environment for learning, rather than virtual learning environment. This removes any ambiguities and identifies that it is the environment which is virtual and not the learning.”
Maybe that settles the issue of virtual but what if you are participating in a SO (social object) and your network of participants are building relationships between things in ways you have never considered – the SO while you were part of it was morphing ideas and throwing up very successful solutions and possibilities – the network starts making amazing associations that are break through ideas or concepts only possible because of the network.
Your contributions to that network brought about the break throughs along with all the other contributions – everyone was learning by just being part of the network and even after the break through happened – more learning was to occur in future – is the learning described as virtual then – or is it still only the environment that is virtual?
Can learning be virtual I wonder ? This question arises because of a mistake I made that was picked up by Tim below and got him and then me thinking. What do you think?
After reading the conversation below about virtual classroom and virtual learning environment, I now understand why Lois was concerned whether her assignment was meeting the requirement of including a Learning Object in the VLE. For me, I tend to classify LO as courseware which may serve a particular purpose of learning as in distance learning. From my understanding before the SOLO discussion came about, the assignment wanted us to create a learning environment with a specific outcome in mind and to achieve this outcome via the use of technology or technologies suitable for the outcome. The learning environment is the object that facilitates all the processes of teaching and learning.
Success to me is that the “student” is able to complete the task and with creativity as an added bonus. Take my case, I am actually working remotely with my Singapore colleagues who are facilitating the process of the environment by bringing the pupils to the computer lab and ensuring some physical arrangements are done. On my part, I will set up the VLE and bring in suitable “objects” to the VLE. Actually I am also learning at the same time “teaching” remotely. That is the excitement of VLE.
So, is it a virtual classroom? For me being in Australia, the VLE from where I am is a virtual classroom. For my Singapore counterparts- the VLE is another means to engage the pupils and encourage independent learning. The bottom line to me is that whatever works to engage pupils and keep them learning whether virtually or not is the reason why I am a teacher. As I have said before, technology cannot replace the teacher because the human touch makes us unique. Just like in FLE and the session tonight, we are already talking about meeting up for dinner. Even in Elluminate , we found it odd to be speaking into space despite Elluminate’s ability to simulate some form of classroom session.
So no matter how virtual we want to be, social networking through SOs will only work to a certain extent lest we fall into the trap of being unsociable when we have to speak not into a computer but in front of one another!
Thanks Judith this helps clarify things a bit
But let me say that perhps my posts here are getting too confusing – but that is not the idea this blog is not meant to be confusing things it is just stating what I am thinking at the time
As I see it my blog is sort of like all your blogs – that is for example so as to raise issues that I am noticing and to seek input and maybe reflection – not really to confuse the issues although I recognise that it seems confusing -especially if I still seem worried about definitions of virtual.
Anyway I am reasonably happy “cognitive dissonance” – is getting us all thinking…..but let me try to clarify there is no requirement for a LO in assignment 2.
I made reference to LOs as a way of thinking about Assignment 2 – but I do not want people to make LOs – especially because there are some old fashioned ideas about how they need to include all sorts of standards – that are irrelevant – and I am not interest in for the Web 2.0 or social software assignment.
The reason I refer to LOs is because they have a nice way of isolating stages that might be needed in a particular approach to online learning.
It is not the only approach though.
A different approach is one of the reasons why I mentioned SOs – which are not only not necessarily related to LOs nor to the assignment either, – except they specifically deal with an aspect of some social software.
Now the good thing about SOs is that they mention interaction or communication and I think for learning online in a VLE one thing that can be drawn upon for learning -(but does not have to be included in the assignment) is the idea that in social software settings – some people, notably Jyri Engestrom, believe that successful social software needs to include or be an SO.
Again both SOs and LOs are examples of ideas that may help with Assignment 2 but they both are not a requirement. If there is no LO and no SO or even as you would say no SOLO” -Judith then it does not matter.
Except let me say that SO LOng as there is a good well thought through learning process that has been SLOwly reviewed b others and the ideas SLOwly considered in relation to OL (online learning) then I am sure it will be a good VLE and the students who submit it will receive a VLE – very lovely evaluation.
Thanks Ted for the clarification and I like the punt at the end. Ha Ha
Social objects are they places or things to talk about?
I think I may have unnecessarily confused the way a number of terms are normally referred to. At its most common or most elemental and straightforward, – the referent “a virtual classroom”, is generally going to refer to an online environment like “Elluminate” – that is at its most basic – a VC will allow online, a group or class of participants, to be addressed by “a teacher” or some “voice of authority” or allow ae group to be addressed by some sequence of information in text or multimedia form/s -(this might be synchronous or asynchronous addressing of the participants by the human or multimedia or text addressor).
Another feature that might be included at a basic level is what Elluninate and the Blackboard virtual classrooms both have and that is a shared white board. This might seem very much like a “real” classroom and therefore might seem to be an essential ingredient in a definition – but it is not always necessary, available or used even if available. That is it is both not essential and not like a “real” whiteboard. Generally the whiteboard feature is more like an “interactive whiteboard” – the big difference though from real classrooms is that in a virtual classroom the teacher is not necessarily in “charge” of the white board – that is the standard set up in most VCs is to enable contributions from anyone to the whiteboard.
The second difference is the whiteboard is not really a whiteboard in that generally it can also be used to share things other than real time scribbles of the teacher and the students – so usually it can be used to share type written text, to draw perfect circles, or act like drawing application software – it may allow the sharing of images. The Elluminate whiteboard allows the sharing of Powerpoint slides.
I have not finished this yet but perhaps others might be able to identify some other basic differences between “real” classrooms and the virtual ones. Any ideas?
LOs differ from VLES as they are more like minature virtual classrooms designed for tiny little students, small enough and virtual enough to only exist inside them – as per tne film Zoolander’s scale model of “…the Derek Zoolander School for Kids Who Can’t Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too”. See http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Zoolander"e=3timesbigger.txt&file=3timesbigger.mp3
Learning objects might be more simply described as mini virtual learning environments. The idea that a learning object may have a sequence of presentation, activity, assessment, feedback looks sort of like what you would want a virtual learning environment to do too.
Except if you confuse – as I do – virtual learning (sorry Tim should be virtual learning environment not virtual learning – the learning is not virtual the environment is – but then again it is an interesting idea to have some sort of way of referring to that kind of learning) with virtual classrooms and then you begin to wonder if the object should be like a classroom? – But that is a mistaken way to think of either virtual learning environments or virtual classrooms – they are both not like classrooms – at all – that is right isn’t it?
Is a learning object a mini virtual learning environment and can it ever be a mini virtual classroom?
I thought I understood the basics, but now I think that I may be a little confused. I thought that the ‘Virtual’ in VLEs actually refered to the ‘Environment’ as being virtual rather than the ‘Learning’. (An entry on wikipedia under VLEs makes this point – not that I am suggesting that wikipedia is the authoratitive source, but rather I may not be alone in this thinking). However, the comment above compares ‘virtual learning’ with ‘virtual classrooms’ – is this deliberate use of the term ‘virtual learning’ (as opposed to vle) or is it just comaring ‘virtual environments for learning’ (aka VLEs) with ‘virtual classrooms’?
Could one way of answering the question ‘Is a learning object a mini virtual learning environment and can it ever be a mini virtual classroom?’ be as follows?
A mini VLE (mvle) could be used as a tool to support a mini virtual classroom (mvc). However, a mvc may not include a mvle, but rather simply be an online video lecture (it may not be nearly as effective if it does not include the interactive/social networking features of a vle). Furthermore, a learning object may be a component/tool withing the mvle or a mvc – or both (if the mvle forms part of the mvc).
I think the point I was trying to make was really (not virtually) in relation to learning objects and the assignment I set , – not (really) related to any definitions of VLEs, VCs or even mini VLEs or mini VCs.
I am surprised that there is a reference to mini virtual learning environments – and I did not want to confuse the issue with a new term.
The assignment mentions VLEs and it really is a reference to a form of learning that is designed by me to separate it out from the first assignment PLEs.
Now the reference to learning objects is in session 6 but not in the assessment. The idea was to explain the variously defined concept of a learning object with a reference to the variously defined VLE.
To make matters worse I have identified another term that is in popular use and is used interchangeably sometimes with VLEs – that is virtual classrooms.
For me virtual classrooms are as you say an attempt to make some gesture to creating an environment like a “real classroom” – strangely the way most virtual classrooms manifest themselves is not by visually recreating the desks and physical space in some audio visual virtual reality environment – but by making reference to the activities that might be available in a virtual setting – like conferencing, or various sorts including both synchronous and asynchronous text chat. So it might be the case that the learning activity is the more virtual thing rather than teh environment
Now I have not asked you to create a virtual classroom but a VLE and the problem with a VLE is the similarity to the way virtual classrooms are sometime described.
The idea of a learning object assists with the idea of what type of VLE the assignment is trying to get at, because the the learning object idea refers to a number of stages that sequence the learning so a presentation, an activity and an assessment even feedback can be included in the object as stages. – Object are also meant to be ,small so it it is sort of relevant to our assignment and the idea of mashing a few social or web 2.0 technologies and other things together.
Therefore the idea might be to have some instruction about say astronomy and set a task that is to be completed by collaborative work with a google document ( a further explanation and possibly a screencast demo of how to use the google doc environment might be necessary) and then possibly some sort of group presentation about a particular planetary system with visuals included is presented based on the google docs collaboration.
Mohsen Khalife 7:13 am on September 14, 2011 Permalink |
Hi Ted,
Thanks for the instructions yesterday, I have since received comment from Tony and posted a comment on his blog (http://tmnguyen1988.blogspot.com). Vels specific comments are also now available for you to check. Areas covered are ICT for visualising thinking, ICT for Creation and ICT for creation. I actually used this in my teaching and found the approach extremely useful